Posted: 2024-10-16 03:15:15

Four defence members killed in a helicopter crash were experiencing "hazardous" fatigue, an inquiry has heard.

Captain Danniel Lyon, Lieutenant Maxwell Nugent, Warrant Officer Class 2 Joseph Laycock and Corporal Alexander Naggs died when their MRH-90, or 'Taipan' helicopter, ditched into waters off Lindeman Island in July 2023 during a defence training exercise.

A family photo with four people - Danniel, his two children and his wife Caitland on a white bed smiling.

Captain Danniel Lyon and his wife Caitland Lyon, who's previously spoken at the inquiry.  (Supplied)

It's the fifth round of hearings as part of an inquiry into the tragic crash.

Expert in aviation medicine, Dr Adrian Smith, today told the inquiry the men were so tired it was like they would have had the equivalent of a blood alcohol level over the legal limit. 

There is no suggestion the men consumed alcohol.

Dr Smith analysed the sleep patterns of the men leading up to the crash through data from their phone records.

He estimated in the two days leading up to the crash, the men were not getting enough sleep.

The inquiry has previously heard the men were sleeping next to a commercial airport, in crowded tents with no air conditioning, and some were frequently woken by noise around the campsite.

A ship pulls Taipan wreckage from the ocean, authorities are in a smaller watercraft nearby

The Taipan wreckage was pulled from waters off the Queensland coast in the days following the crash. (ABC News)

Members suffered from lack of sleep

Dr Smith estimated at the time of the crash, Captain Danniel Lyon had only five hours of sleep in the 24 hours prior, and over 11 in 48 hours.

His blood alcohol content level would have been equivalent to 0.08.

Lieutenant Maxwell Nugent had slightly more sleep, and would have been considered "moderately tired" with an equivalent blood alcohol content of 0.05.

Warrant Officer Class 2 Phillip Laycock and Corporal Alexander Naggs would have been considered "extremely tired", equivalent to a blood alcohol content of 0.08.

When asked whether he believed fatigue contributed to the crash, Dr Smith said it was "highly likely" it would be considered "hazardous in an aviation setting".

Under cross-examination, he was repeatedly questioned why certain wake up and sleep times were allocated in the data.

Dr Smith was up-front that the data used in his report was imperfect, as there is no way to monitor the exact time they slept and woke up, and their quality of sleep.

But he was confident it provided a general overview of fatigue levels within the regiment.

Dr Smith said when applied to a model that compared aviators to a population's average, it revealed the men would have likely experienced a reduction in performance, cognitive ability and reaction times, and seen more lapses in concentration.

Brigadier in charge of search was not trained

Brigadier Damian Hill, who had control of the search and rescue operation after the crash, said he had no training in search and rescue prior to the fatal flight in 2023.

He said when he handed control of the search and rescue operation to a Navy captain, he did not have the right skills for the transition from search and rescue, to search and recovery.

"[Captain Philippa Hay] had to do that on her own, that was unfair," Brigadier Hill said.

A man stands in army camouflage uniform and holding a round patch while wearing a blue beret.

Brigadier Damian Hill says there are lessons to learn from the search and rescue operation following the crash. (ABC Illawarra: Tim Fernandez)

Brigadier Hill said lessons have been learnt from the exercise, including how defence works with agencies like the Queensland and federal police.

"It's not something that, in my view, did well on Talisman Sabre 23. I think our exercise control did everything I asked them to do, but we can do better," he said.

The inquiry continues.

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